tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1764822475195816427.post7891819835022093796..comments2024-03-04T04:14:25.797-06:00Comments on Artists' Journal Workshop: An Update on DaVinci Gouache and Some Thoughts on Economical ChoicesKate (Cathy Johnson)http://www.blogger.com/profile/03296053923338246127noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1764822475195816427.post-84586373909035464672013-05-31T09:12:56.815-05:002013-05-31T09:12:56.815-05:00Adrienne, sorry you don't like your gouache pa...Adrienne, sorry you don't like your gouache paints! They are different, that's for sure. One thing I recommend to people just wanting to try out the effect is to get a single tube of gouache white to mix with a dedicated set of watercolors (not your everyday set or your paints will be sullied.) Then you can at least see if you like the effect before investing...<br /><br />I don't know if Roz ever suggests this or not, she's the Gouache Queen!Kate (Cathy Johnson)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03296053923338246127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1764822475195816427.post-59062018669913627552013-05-31T05:43:09.420-05:002013-05-31T05:43:09.420-05:00I just purchased some Gouache watercolor paints an...I just purchased some Gouache watercolor paints and I am not sure how I feel about them. i wish I would have bought a small set. I am not one to waste. :( Behhhh. This is the first time that I've had Gouache. I started out with a very cheap set of watercolors from Korea that I am pretty fond of! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16919079134282687094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1764822475195816427.post-34783780393621849702013-05-26T09:59:14.958-05:002013-05-26T09:59:14.958-05:00Linda, just a clarification because Lascaux has ma...Linda, just a clarification because Lascaux has many products (and may even have an acrylic gouache, but I know they have aquacryl or something like that in jars) when I'm writing about their quality acrylic I am referring to their line of TUBE acrylics. I don't have a catalog in front of me but if they have more than one line of tube acrylics than it would be their top of the line tube acrylic. Wet Paint sells the paints I looked at and tested so if you want to get some I know you can call them and talk to them about it. But I don't mean any other product by Lascaux. In this discussion I just meant their quality tube acrylics.Roz Stendahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00061887573140735228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1764822475195816427.post-23216972453530362392013-05-26T09:54:34.326-05:002013-05-26T09:54:34.326-05:00Patti, I'm glad you found this post helpful. I...Patti, I'm glad you found this post helpful. I hope you are still collaging away and sketching in your Strathmore journals. I just purchased one of their 11 x 14 inch 500 Series Mixed Media journals so that I could work LARGER and having that huge expanse of page has been very fun indeed!Roz Stendahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00061887573140735228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1764822475195816427.post-42426668276782928592013-05-26T09:52:58.862-05:002013-05-26T09:52:58.862-05:00Linda, the only acrylic gouache I've used is H...Linda, the only acrylic gouache I've used is Holbein and the pigments in the paint are pretty fugitive, often multi-pigment paints (which leads to problems when mixing with other colors) and the quality of the paint isn't the best. <br /><br />You also have to work pretty darn quickly, which isn't a problem for me, but I need to mention it. And the portability isn't something that I can work out because it would mean taking a sta-wet palette with me and blah, blah, blah. I'm not always some place that I can fully rinse my brushes on site so that would mean lots of ruined brushes.<br /><br />The last time I used acrylic gouache was probably the late 90s or early 00s and I gave all that paint away and have no desire to go back. There may be some other brands now that are better, but the reasons for me not going there remain—or the biggest one—portability and usability in the field. I wouldn't be allowed to go into certain places with such paint.<br /><br />I don't have any trouble working with my two favorite gouache brands: Schmincke and M. Graham. They do everything I need. You can read more about them and why I like them and what I do with them on my blog on a page of links called "Gouache Compendium" http://rozwoundup.typepad.com/roz_wound_up/gouache-compendium-notes-from-roz-wound-up-posts-to-accompany-my-gouache-demo.html<br /><br />I've never had any of the problems with these two brands that I had with DaVinci gouache. <br /><br />My two favorite brands, which are watersoluble, traditional gum-arabic based gouache paints solve all my needs for great, pigment heavy paint. I can put them in pans and use them in the field. The rewet (in the pans) to a lovely consistency and I can use them in light washes or opaquely. <br /><br />I don't have any trouble layering gouache, like any painting medium there are techniques you can acquire that make it possible. YOu can see I don't have issues in paintings like my rock series http://rozwoundup.typepad.com/roz_wound_up/2008/10/project-640-tub.html<br /><br />When I used Winsor & Newton gouache regularly (decades ago) I had lots of problems with the pigments bleeding up through the layers so layering colors was something you had to practically be a chemist about. But I don't have that problem with the two brands I like.<br /><br />So I'm happy as can be with the two watersoluble brands that I use and have no intention of changing. Acrylic gouache doesn't buy me anything and may bring with it the smell of the acrylic medium it's made of and that wouldn't be pleasant at all (I'm really sensitive to odors).<br /><br />The other point I have against acrylic gouache is that if I'm going to use acrylics I'll just use regular acrylics (in brands that I know work for me and don't smell horribly). I don't use gel medium in my paintings so I don't get a plasticy look to my acrylic paintings and so the need for "gouache" to get a flatter matte look seems to me to be a moot point. There are several great acrylic paints on offer from a lot of companies and I am limited only by my ability to deal with their odors. I usually only use acrylics spring through fall when the windows can be fully open. I have used and liked the regular acrylics put out by Steven Quiller, Daniel Smith, and Golden. I have also tried M. Graham (but while they are an excellent paint they have a bit too much smell for me so as long as I have other choices…). Lascaux makes a WONDERFUL brand of acrylics but they are a bit more expensive. I didn't discover them until I had quite a bunch of Golden and Daniel Smith. And since I don't paint often in acrylics I can't justify buying them. But if I were starting now with acrylics I would buy Lascaux. The workability and the finish (very matte) is wonderful and the smell is within tolerance. <br /><br />If you're going to use acrylic paints I'd suggest you go for one of the brands mentioned which are all quality paints and skip the idea of acrylic gouache.<br /><br />RozRoz Stendahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00061887573140735228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1764822475195816427.post-10525322963585685092013-05-25T00:20:10.910-05:002013-05-25T00:20:10.910-05:00Thanks, Roz. I appreciate your experience and hone...Thanks, Roz. I appreciate your experience and honesty. I took the Strathmore workshop you taught. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1764822475195816427.post-57418329137478483882013-05-24T16:57:20.998-05:002013-05-24T16:57:20.998-05:00What are your feelings about acrylic gouache?What are your feelings about acrylic gouache?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032962809504384887noreply@blogger.com